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« on: Oct 02, 2013 at 09:32 »

No details yet, but this comes on the heels of the Ratties trading for Eugene Monroe.

Always considered Brown more a RT, not sure how he stacks up as LT, but IMO he's gotta be better than either Adams or Gilbert.
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« Reply #1 on: Oct 02, 2013 at 09:43 »

Some move is better than none, I guess.  IMO, two in season acquisitions of a starting offensive lineman is kind of unprecedented.  Speaks volumes about how poorly they've mismanaged this aspect of the team.  Looking on the bright side, at least they're admitting their failures and trying to rectify them.

Remember when this team had one of the better lines in the league and they had quality young guys "waiting in the wings?"

JFC, what a shit show.

And, "pooflingingmonkey" with the understatement of the year:

Still, you have to admit it’s kind of sad when you’re getting offensive line help from the Cardinals, who also have a pathetic front.
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« Reply #2 on: Oct 02, 2013 at 10:24 »

Sanders for Brown, straight up?

Would rather have had Monroe, but. 

Maybe Brown to RT, and see how Beachum fares at LT?  I remember looking at the 2012 OL prospects and based on size, I had Beachum as an OG (6'2", 303#).  He's been a pretty pleasant surprise in that capacity, but NFL LT?  Sure, he played LT at SMU, but he's slow (5.44) and weak (19), so I don't see how he's an improvement over Adams or Gilbert unless he's bulked and has a nice first step.  I think the Beachum experiment at LT will fail.

And that brings us back to Brown at LT, and maybe Beach at RT.  And are we flushing Adams and Gilbert then?  Clusterfox.
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« Reply #3 on: Oct 02, 2013 at 12:17 »

Looking on the bright side, at least they're admitting their failures and trying to rectify them.

That's about the biggest positive I can see here.
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« Reply #4 on: Oct 02, 2013 at 12:33 »

Given how poorly Foster has played (surprising to me), our best lineup this year may be one of the following:

LT - Beachum/Brown
LG - Brown/Beachum
C - Velaz
RG - DDC
RT - Gilbert

Would still like to be able to draft a true LT in 2014.  Dream OL:

LT - Matthews
LG - Pouncey
C - Velaz
RG - DDC
RT - Brown

Adams, Gilbert, Beach all backups.
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« Reply #5 on: Oct 03, 2013 at 06:17 »

Assuming your dream scenario were to play out...can the FO really pay both Adams AND Gilbert the money that a 2nd round pick usually ends up getting?  Though Gilbert will be moving into, I'm guessing the final year of his rookie contract...
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« Reply #6 on: Oct 03, 2013 at 07:01 »

Yeah, let them play out their C$1s and then bye bye.  Over-drafted backups.  Unless they miracle their way into better play.
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« Reply #7 on: Oct 15, 2013 at 10:04 »

As noted elsewhere...

Tough break for Johnson, two years in a row.

The Levi Brown Experiment was cool.  Zero starts, zero appearances.  Guess that's why it was a conditional pick.

Then, instead of signing an OT from... anywhere... we bring up CB Isaiah Green and some TE I never heard of from the PS. 

Do they just have this bag that they draw names from?
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« Reply #8 on: Oct 15, 2013 at 10:18 »

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Then, instead of signing an OT from... anywhere... we bring up CB Isaiah Green and some TE I never heard of from the PS. 

Have you not seen League of Denial?
In a few shorts years, there will be no such thing as an offensive line.
And which team will be ahead of the curve because they've been playing w/o one for years?
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« Reply #9 on: Oct 15, 2013 at 10:55 »

...while Brown injured his triceps during pre-game warm-ups.

Dafuq? 

Is this real life?
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« Reply #10 on: Oct 15, 2013 at 18:09 »

We lose nothing, WRT draft picks. 

Just kick half a mill out the door for Levi to come here and whack his triceps.

I can do that for a quarter mill.  Just sayin'.
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« Reply #11 on: Oct 16, 2013 at 11:39 »

My point is, how do you incur a season ending tricep injury...during warmups?

There was a lot of talk about IR and the amount of players on it yesterday on the sirius NFL Movin' the Chains.  Pat Kirwin made a lot of very interesting and valid points.  Long story short, he kind of felt that IR is being abused by teams and players.  As of yesterday, there was something like 180-190+ players (IIRC) listed on season ending IR.  If you figure average cost of 1MIL per player (which is probably on the low side when you have several big name, big priced stars on it too), that's nearly 200 million dollars that's being shelled out to players for wearing the grays.  The kicker?  It's only Week 6.  I believe they said that the amount of players on IR this year is already approaching the total number from 2012.  So, does that mean they could flirt with 300 players by the time the season is up?  Crazy to think about it that way.

Now, obviously there are guys on there that are totally deserving of the benefit; the ACLs, Achilles', etc., but how many are taking advantage of the system and skating by?  They guessed that probably 20-25% of those guys on IR would be playing sometime late in the year instead of sitting out 2013 if they weren't getting paid to be a cheerleader.  It's something that they definitely need to look at for the next labor agreement because it's a lotta goddamned coin being shelled out for guys that could probably get back out there, but don't.  They take the "safe" route.  It doesn't exactly fall in line with the whole player safety approach, but at the same time, you have to be careful that the pendulum doesn't swing too far in the other direction.

I'm not trying to minimize what happened to Brown because a tricep tear is no joke, but seriously...during warmups?  It just made me think of their talk.  Wrist injury?  IR'd.  Foot?  IR.  Tweaked the hammy?  Hmm, not sure.  Better go on IR to be safe.  Toe?  Well geez, is it the pinky or big toe?  If it's the pinky we can probably conditionally IR him so he might be ready in six weeks, but if it's the big toe, well, he done.

Some of that is obviously hyperbole, but...
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« Reply #12 on: Oct 16, 2013 at 14:16 »

I gave myself a hernia straining too hard taking a Kashi dump...

Yeah, I dunno how you eff your tricep during warmups, unless warming up involves hanging anvils on your triceps with hooks or something.  DJ messed up the wrist that badly warming up... probably practicing somersaults into the end zone...
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« Reply #13 on: Oct 16, 2013 at 15:11 »

Brown skipped the pre-game pre-warm-ups warm-ups.
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« Reply #14 on: Oct 16, 2013 at 15:11 »

Simms blathered some shit about him doing it fireouts or something during the broadcast.
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