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TwistedLemon
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« on: Apr 12, 2014 at 09:12 »

Quite simply, another version of the you be the GM post by Finnegan a few weeks back. only using the big board overall rankings from drafttek.com.  Not at all saying I prefer this site, but good example of the vast differences in player rankings.
  Anyone with nothing better to do, go ahead and see if the board dictates much difference from the original you be the GM post. Same rules apply


1   --   Jadeveon Clowney   South Carolina   6'5"   266   DE43   OLB34   
2   --   Teddy Bridgewater   Louisville     6'2"   214   QB      
3   --   Jake Matthews   Texas A&M   6'5"   308   LOT   ROT   
4   --   Sammy Watkins   Clemson                 6'1"   211   WRF      
5   --   Greg Robinson   Auburn       6'5"   332   LOT   ROT   
6   --   Khalil Mack   Buffalo                 6'3"   251   OLB43   OLB34   
7   --   Johnny Manziel   Texas A&M   6'0"   207   QB      
8   --   C.J. Mosley   Alabama   6'2"   234   ILB   OLB43   
9   --   Ha'Sean Clinton-Dix   Alabama   6'1"   208   FS      
10   --   Darqueze Dennard   Michigan State   5'11"   191   CB      
11   --   Blake Bortles   UCF   6'5"   232   QB      
12   --   Anthony Barr   UCLA   6'5"   255   OLB43   OLB34   
13   --   Eric Ebron   North Carolina   6'4"    250   TE      
14   --   Taylor Lewan   Michigan    6'7"   309   LOT   ROT   


1.15                        
 15    +13   Aaron Donald   Pittsburgh   6'1"   285   DT43      
16   --   Marqise Lee   USC   6'0"   192   WRF      
17     -2   Timmy Jernigan   Florida State   6'3"   299   DT43      
18   --   Mike Evans   Texas A&M   6'5"   231   WRF      
19   --   Kony Ealy   Missouri   6'4"   273   DE43   DE34   
20   --   Justin Gilbert   Oklahoma State   6'0"   202   CB      
21   --   Jason Verrett   TCU   5'9"   189   CB      
22   --   Odell Beckham Jr.   LSU   5'11"   198   WRF      
23     -6   Louis Nix   Notre Dame   6'2"   331   DT34   DT43   
24   --   David Yankey   Stanford   6'6"   315   OG   LOT   
25   --   Jeremiah Attaochu   Georgia Tech   6'3"   252   OLB34   OLB43   
26   --   Jace Amaro   Texas Tech   6'5"   265   TE      
27   --   Derek Carr   Fresno State   6'2"   214   QB      
28     -5   Stephon Tuitt   Notre Dame   6'5"   304   DE34   DT43   
29   --   Calvin Pryor   Louisville   5'11"   207   SS   FS   
30   --   Kyle Fuller   Virginia Tech   6'0"   190   CB      
31   --   Scott Crichton   Oregon State   6'3"   273   DE43      
32   --   Dee Ford   Auburn   6'2"   252   DE43   OLB34   
33   --   Brandin Cooks   Oregon State   5'10"   189   WRS      
34   --   Ryan Shazier   Ohio State   6'1"   237   OLB43   OLB34   
35    +13   Zack Martin   Notre Dame   6'4"   308   OG   LOT   
36   --   Bradley Roby   Ohio State   5'11"   194   CB      
37   --   Bishop Sankey   Washington   5'9"   209   RBF      
38     -3   Xavier Su'a-Filo   UCLA   6'4"   307   OG      
39     -1   Morgan Moses   Virginia   6'6"   314   ROT   LOT   
40   --   Allen Robinson   Penn State   6'3"   220   WRF      
41   --   Kyle Van Noy   BYU   6'3"   243   OLB43   OLB34   
42   --   Ra'Shede Hageman   Minnesota   6'6"   310   DE34   DT43   
43    +4   Jordan Matthews   Vanderbilt   6'3"   212   WRF      
44   --   Carlos Hyde   Ohio State   6'0"   230   RBF      
45   --   Trent Murphy   Stanford   6'5"   250   DE43   OLB34   


2.46                        
46    +9   Kelcy Quarles   South Carolina   6'4"   297   DT43      
47    +3   Davante Adams   Fresno State   6'1"   212   WRF      
48     -9   Antonio Richardson   Tennessee   6'6"   336   ROT   LOT   
49   --   Shayne Skov   Stanford   6'2"   245   ILB      
50    +6   Paul Richardson   Colorado   6'0"   175   WRF      
51   --   Lamarcus Joyner   Florida State   5'8"   195   FS   CB   
52   --   Cyrus Kouandjio   Alabama   6'7"   322   LOT   ROT   
53   --   A Seferian-Jenkins   Washington   6'6"   267   TE      
54    +46   Marcus Martin   USC   6'3"   320   OC      
55    +15   Dominique Easley   Florida   6'2"   288   DT43   DE34   
56    +8   Jarvis Landry   LSU   5'11"   204   WRF      
57   --   DaQuan Jones   Penn State   6'4"   322   DT34   DT43   
58   --   Gabe Jackson   Mississippi St   6'3"   336   OG      
59   --   Bashaud Breeland   Clemson   5'11"   197   CB      
60   --   Will Clarke   West Virginia   6'6"   273   DE34   DE43   
61   --   Jackson Jeffcoat   Texas   6'3"   247   DE43   OLB34   -2
62   --   James Gayle   Virginia Tech   6'4"   259   OLB34   DE43   
63   --   Troy Niklas   Notre Dame   6'6"   270   TE      
64    +4   Martavis Bryant   Clemson   6'3"   211   WRF      
65    +67   Brandon Thomas   Clemson   6'3'   317   OG      
66   --   Christian Jones   Florida State   6'3"   240   OLB43   OLB34   
67   --   Aaron Lynch   South Florida   6'5"   249   OLB34   DE43   
68    +9   Donte Moncrief   Ole Miss   6'2"   221   WRF      
69   --   Josh Mauro   Stanford   6'6"   282   DE34   DE43   
70     -24   Will Sutton   Arizona State   6'0"   303   DT43      
71   --   Tre Mason   Auburn   5'8"   207   RBF      
72   --   Chris Smith   Arkansas   6'1"   266   DE43      
73     -8   Dakota Dozier   Furman   6'4"   313   OG      
74   --   Yawin Smallwood   Connecticut   6'2"   246   ILB      
75   --   Seantrel Henderson   Miami (FL)   6'7"   331   ROT   LOT   
76   --   Deone Bucannon   Washington St   6'1"   211   SS      
77     -34   Kelvin Benjamin   Florida State   6'5"   240   WRF      
78    +12   Ego Ferguson   LSU   6'3"   315   DT43   
79   --   Dri Archer   Kent St   5'7"   175   WRS   RBC   
80   --   Jack Mewhort   Ohio State   6'6"   309   ROT   LOT   
81     -27   Travis Swanson   Arkansas   6'5"   312   OC      
82   --   Jonathan Dowling   Western Kentucky   6'3"   190   FS      
83   --   C.J. Fiedorowicz   Iowa   6'5"   265   TE      
84   --   Marcus Smith   Louisville   6'3"   251   DE43      
85   --   A.J. McCarron   Alabama   6'3"   220   QB      
86    +55   Keith McGill   Utah   6'3"   211   CB      
87   --   Billy Turner   North Dakota St   6'5"   315   LOT   ROT   
88   --   Jared Abbrederis   Wisconsin   6'1"   195   WRF      
89   --   Adrian Hubbard   Alabama   6'6"   257   OLB34   DE43   -35
90     -12   Anthony Johnson   LSU   6'2"   308   DT43      
91   --   Demarcus Lawrence   Boise State   6'3"   251   DE43   OLB34   
92     -6   Jaylen Watkins   Florida   5'11"   194   CB      
93   --   Chris Borland   Wisconsin   5'11"   248   ILB      
94   --   Bruce Ellington   South Carolina   5'9"   197   WRS      
95   --   Zach Mettenberger   LSU   6'5"   224   QB      
96   --   Brandon Coleman   Rutgers   6'6"   225   WRF      



3.97                        
97    +6   Ka'Deem Carey   Arizona   5'9"   207   RBF      
98     -25   Cyril Richardson   Baylor   6'5"   329   OG   ROT   
99     -7   Stanley Jean-Baptiste   Nebraska   6'3"   218   CB      
100     -19   Weston Richburg   Colorado State   6'3"   298   OC      
101   --   Justin Ellis   Louisiana Tech   6'1"   334   DT34   DT43   
102   --   Dion Bailey   USC   6'0"   201   SS      
103    +7   Jeremy Hill   LSU   6'0"   233   RBF      
104   --   De'Anthony Thomas   Oregon   5'9"   176   RBC      
105   --   Christian Kirksey   Iowa   6'2"   233   OLB43      
106   --   Ed Stinson   Alabama   6'3"   287   DE34   DE43   
107   --   Joel Bitonio   Nevada   6'4"   302   LOT   ROT   
108     -9   Victor Hampton   South Carolina   5'9"   197   CB      
109   --   Kareem Martin   North Carolina   6'6"   272   DE34   DE43   
110    +7   Lache Seastrunk   Baylor   5'9"   201   RBF      
111   --   Josh Huff   Oregon   5'11"   205   RBC   WRF   0
112     -4   Marcus Roberson   Florida   6'0"   191   CB      
113   --   Andrew Jackson   W Kentucky   6'1"   254   ILB      
114   --   Taylor Hart   Oregon   6'6"   281   DE34   DE43   
115   --   Jimmie Ward   Northern Illinois   5'11"   193   SS      
116   --   Jonathan Brown   Illinois   6'0"   238   OLB43      
117    +21   Charles Sims   WVU   6'0"   214   RBF      



4.118                        
118   --   Mike Davis   Texas          6'0"        197        WRF      
119   --   JaWuan James   Tennessee   6'6"   311   ROT   LOT   
120   --   Marcel Jensen   Fresno State   6'6"   259   TE      
121   --   Telvin Smith   Florida State   6'3"   218   ILB      
122   --   Morgan Breslin   USC   6'2"   250   OLB34      
123   --   Michael Sam   Missouri   6'2"   261   DE43   OLB34   
124   --   Daniel McCullers   Tennessee   6'7"   352   DT34   DT43   
125   --   Bryan Stork   Florida State   6'4"   315   OC      
126   --   Cody Latimer   Indiana   6'2"   215   WRF      
127   --   Terrence Brooks   Florida State   5'11"   198   FS      
128   --   Boseko Lokombo   Oregon   6'2"   225   OLB43      
129   --   Brent Urban   Virginia    6'7"   295   DE34   DE43   
130   --   Lamin Barrow   LSU   6'1"   237   ILB      
131   --   Ryan Carrethers   Arkansas State   6'1"   337   DT34   DT43   
132     -34   Anthony Steen   Alabama   6'3"   314   OG      
133   --   Brett Smith   Wyoming   6'2"   206   QB      
134     -22   Pierre Desir   Lindenwood   6'1"   198   CB      
135    +44   Cameron Fleming   Stanford   6'5"   323   ROT   LOT   
136   --   Caraun Reid   Princeton   6'2"   302   DT43      
137   --   Devin Street   Pittsburgh   6'3"   198   WRF      
138     -41   Andre Williams   Boston College   5'11"   230   RBF      
139   --   Ed Reynolds   Stanford   6'1"   207   FS      
140   --   Arthur Lynch   Georgia   6'5"   258   TE      
141     -7   Terrance Mitchell   Oregon   5'11"   192   CB      
142   --   Craig Loston   LSU   5'11"   217   SS      
143   --   Avery Williamson   Kentucky   6'1"   246   ILB   OLB43   
144   --   Ronald Powell   Florida   6'4"   244   OLB34      
145   --   Jeoffrey Pagan   Alabama   6'3"   310   DE34   DT43   
146   --   Joe Don Duncan   Dixie State   6'3"   268   TE      
147    +60   Terrance West   Towson   5'11"   223   RBF      
148    +16   Jon Halapio   Florida   6'3"   323   OG      
149   --   Shaq Evans   UCLA   6'1"   213   WRF      
150   --   Tyler Larsen   Utah State   6'3"   313   OC      
151   --   Trevor Reilly   Utah   6'4"   245   DE43   OLB34   
152   --   E.J. Gaines   Missouri   5'10"   190   CB      
153   --   Cody Hoffman   BYU   6'4"   223   WRF      
154   --   Tyler Starr   South Dakota   6'4"   240   OLB34      
155   --   Ahmad Dixon   Baylor   6'0"   212   SS      
156    +5   Chris Davis   Auburn   5'10"   202   CB      




5.157                        
157   --   Denicos Allen   Michigan State   5'11"   225   OLB43      
158   --   Carl Bradford   Arizona State   6'1"   250   OLB34      
159   --   Zack Kerr   Delaware   6'1"   326   DT34   DT43   
160     -13   Marion Grice    Arizona State   6'0"   208   RBF      
161    +6   Walt Aikens   Liberty   6'1"   205   CB      
162   --   Marqueston Huff   Wyoming   5'11"   196   FS      
163   --   Shaquil Barrett   Colorado State   6'2   250   OLB43      
164    +9   Russell Bodine   North Carolina   6'3"   310   OC   OG   
165   --   Robert Herron   Wyoming   5'9"   193   WRS      
166   --   Aaron Murray   Georgia   6'0"   207   QB      
167    +10   Aaron Colvin   Oklahoma   6'0"   182   CB      
168     -33   Michael Schofield   Michigan    6'6"   301   LOT   ROT   
169   --   Max Bullough   Michigan State   6'2"   252   ILB      
170   --   Ricky Havili-Heimuli   Oregon   6'4"   314   DT34   DT43   
171   --   Isaiah Lewis   Michigan State   5'10"   211   SS      
172   --   A.C. Leonard   Tennessee State   6'2"   252   TE      


5.173                        
173    +221   Trai Turner   LSU   6'3"   310   OG      
174   --   Jalen Saunders   Oklahoma   5'9"   165   WRS      
175     -27   Chris Watt   Notre Dame   6'3"   310   OG      
176    +68   Kadeem Edwards   Tennessee State   6'3"   318   OG      
177    +3   Deion Belue   Alabama   5'11"   182   CB      
178   --   Eric Ward   Texas Tech   6'0"   205   WRF      
179     -11   James Hurst   North Carolina   6'5"   296   LOT   ROT   
180    +5   Rashaad Reynolds   Oregon State   5'10"   189   CB      
181   --   Xavier Grimble   USC   6'4"   257   TE      
182   --   George Uko   USC   6'3"   286   DT43   DE34   
183   --   Ben Gardner   Stanford   6'4"   275   DE34   DE43   
184   --   Prince Shembo   Notre Dame   6'1"   253   OLB43   OLB34   
185    +11   Ross Cockrell   Duke   6'0"   191   CB      
186   --   T.J. Jones   Notre Dame   6'0"   188   WRF      
187   --   Kenny Ladler   Vanderbilt   6'0"   207   FS      
188   --   Jack Tyler   Virginia Tech   6'1"   236   ILB      
189   --   Ty Zimmerman   Kansas State   6'1"   203   SS      
190    +1   Tajh Boyd   Clemson   6'1"   222   QB      
191    +1   David Fales   San Jose State   6'2"   212   QB      


6.192                        
192    +1   Michael Campanaro   Wake Forest   5'9"   192   WRF      
193    +1   Matt Patchan   Boston College   6'6"   302   LOT   ROT   
194    +1   Jimmy Garoppolo   Eastern Illinois   6'2"   226   QB      
195    +5   Nevin Lawson   Utah State   5'9"   190   CB      
196    +205   Vinnie Sunseri   Alabama   5'11"   210   SS   Jr   
197    +1   Marquis Spruill   Syracuse   6'0"   230   OLB43      
198    +1   Devon Kennard   USC   6'3"   249   OLB34      
199    +4   Antone Exum   Virginia Tech   6'0"   213   CB      
200    +1   Rob Blanchflower   Massachusetts   6'4"    256   TE      
201    +1   Corey Linsley   Ohio State   6'3"   296   OC      
202     -46   Loucheiz Purifoy   Florida   5'11"   190   CB      
203    +1   Jeff Janis   Saginaw Valley   6'3"   219   WRF      
204    +1   Logan Thomas   Virginia Tech   6'6"   248   QB      
205    +1   Ricardo Allen   Purdue   5'9"   187   CB      
206     -46   Devonta Freeman   Florida State   5'8"   206   RBC   RBF   
207    +1   Ryan Grant   Tulane   6'0"   199   WRF      
208    +1   Bene Benwikere   San Jose State   5'11"   195   CB      
209     -12   Brock Vereen   Minnesota   6'0"   199   SS      
210    +1   Jay Prosch   Auburn   5'11"   253   FB      
211    +1   Colt Lyerla   Oregon   6'4"   242   TE      
212    +1   Matt Hazel   Coastal Carolina   6'1"   198   WRF      
213    +1   Bennett Jackson   Notre Dame   6'0"   195   CB      
214     -38   John Urschel   Penn State   6'3"   313   OG      



6.215                        
215   --   Ryan Groy   Wisconsin   6'5"   316   OG   LOT   
                        
216     -6   Hakeem Smith   Louisville               6'1"   188   SS      
217   --   Preston Brown   Louisville      6'1"   251   ILB      
218   --   Devekeyan Lattimore   South Florida   6'1"   237   OLB43   ILB   
219   --   Beau Allen   Wisconsin   6'3"   335   DT34   DT43   
220   --   Eathyn Manumaleuna   Brigham Young   6'2"   296   DT43      
221   --   Shamar Stephen   Connecticut   6'5"   309   DT43      
222   --   Jacob Pedersen   Wisconsin   6'3"    238   TE      
223   --   Cornelius Lucas   Kansas State   6'8"   316   ROT   LOT   
224   --   Jeremy Gallon   Michigan   5'7"   185   WRS      
225    +18   Justin Britt   Missouri   6'6"   315   LOT   ROT   
226   --   Jake Murphy   Utah   6'4"    249   TE      
227    +174   Phillip Gaines   Rice   6'0"   193   CB      
228    +105   Cassius Marsh   UCLA   6'3"   268   DE43      
229    +4   Deandre Coleman   California   6'5"   309   DE34   DT43   


7.230                        
230   --   Carrington Byndom   Texas   6'0"   180   CB      
231     -15   Alden Darby   Arizona State   5'11"   195   SS      
232    +15   L'Damian Washington   Missouri   5'10"   198   WRF      
233    +3   Gabe Ikard   Oklahoma   6'3"   290   OC      
234     -2   Christian Bryant   Ohio State   5'10"   192   FS      
235    +19   James Morris   Iowa   6'1"   230   ILB   OLB43   
236    +23   Connor Shaw   South Carolina   6'0"   206   QB      
237    +15   Tracy Moore   Oklahoma State   6'1"   215   WRF      
238    +13   Tim Jackson   North Carolina   6'5"   285   DE34   DT43
239    +124   Dontae Johnson   North Carolina St   6'2"   200   CB      
240     -3   Greg Blair   Cincinnati   6'1"   252   ILB      
241    +15   Kevin Norwood   Alabama   6'2"   198   WRF      
242    +33   Kevin Pierre-Louis   Boston College   6'0"   232   OLB34      
243    +158   Isaiah Johnson   Georgia Tech   6'2"   205   SS      
244    +11   Kaneakua Friel   BYU   6'5"   250   TE      
245     -20   Charles Leno   Boise State   6'4"   298   LOT      
246    +15   Tevin Reese   Baylor   5'10"   163   WRS      
247    +3   Stephen Morris   Miami (FL)   6'2"   213   QB      
248     -21   Andre Hal   Vanderbilt   5'10"   188   CB      
249    +17   Sean Parker   Washington   5'10"   195   SS      
250    +13   Ted Bolser   Indiana   6'5"   250   TE      
251    +35   Dezmen Southward   Wisconsin   6'0"   211   SS      
252    +15   Glenn Carson   Penn State   6'2"   235   ILB      
253    +16   Khairi Fortt   California   6'2"   240   OLB43      
254    +18   Jeremiah Sirles   Nebraska   6'6"   312   ROT   LOT   
255     -10   Keith Price   Washington   6'1"   202   QB      
256    +4   Quincy Enunwa   Nebraska   6'2"   206   WRF



UDFA      
257     -4   Wesley Johnson   Vanderbilt   6'5"   285   LOT      
258    +13   Richard Rodgers   California   6'4"    257   TE      
259     -20   Jeff Mathews   Cornell   6'4"   223   QB      
260    +44   Matt Hall   Belhaven   6'8"   325   ROT   LOT   
261     -15   Larry Webster   Bloomsburg   6'6"   240   DE43      
262    +14   Tre Boston   North Carolina   6'0"   194   FS      
263    +32   Jordan Tripp   Montana   6'3"   234   OLB34      
264    +14   Gator Hoskins   Marshall   6'2"   240   FB      
265    +69   Spencer Long   Nebraska   6'3"   308   OG      
266    +135   John Brown   Pittsburgh State   5'10"   179   WRS      
267    +16   Garrett Gilbert   SMU   6'3"   214   QB      
268     -4   Solomon Patton   Florida   5'9"   171   WRS      
269    +5   Mo Alexander   Utah St   6'1"   220   SS      
270    +24   Justin Jackson   Wake Forest   6'1"   220   OLB43      
271    +126   Kain Colter   Northwestern   5'10"   198   WRS      
272    +38   Howard Jones   Shepard   6'2"   235   OLB34      
273   --   Chandler Jones   San Jose State   5'8"   175   WRS      
274    +5   Mike Flacco   New Haven   6'5"   245   TE      
275    +17   Kenny Guiton   Ohio State   6'2"   208   QB      
276    +20   Kirby Van der Camp   Iowa State   6'3"   211   P      
277    +12   Chris Coyle   Arizona State   6'2"   232   FB   TE   
278    +15   Jerick McKinnon   Georgia Southern   5'9"   209   RBC   RBF   
279     -50   Calvin Barnett   Oklahoma State   6'2"   300   DT43      
280     -40   Jemea Thomas   Georgia Tech   5'10"   190   CB      
281    +120   Demetri Goodson   Baylor   5'11"   194   CB      
282     -51   Chaz Sutton   South Carolina   6'4"   256   OLB34   DE43
283    +28   Matt Feiler   Bloomsburg   6'6"   330   ROT   LOT   
284    +20   Tyler Russell   Mississippi St   6'4"   220   QB      
285     -29   Tyler Gaffney   Stanford   6'0"   226   RBF      
286    +20   Derel Walker   Texas A&M   6'2"   185   WRF      
287    +23   Chris Davenport   Tulane   6'3"   330   DT34      
288     -8   Venric Mark   Northwestern   5'9"   202   WRS   RBC   
289     -13   Jay Bromley   Syracuse   6'3"   293   DT43      
290    +48   Justin Jones   East Carolina   6'6"   258   TE      
291    +13   Anthony Fera   Texas   6'2"   208   PK   P   
292    +6   James Boyd   UNLV   6'4"   255   OLB34      
293    +30   Keith Wenning   Ball State   6'3"   218   QB      
294     -68   Antonio Andrews   W Kentucky   6'0"   212   RBF      
295    +60   Charles Sawyer   Ole Miss   5'11"   182   CB      
296    +21   Darwin Cook   West Virginia   5'11"   203   SS      
297    +3   Bruce Gaston   Purdue   6'2"   305   DT43      
298     -2   Nickoe Whitley   Mississippi St   6'0"   205   FS      
299    +43   Anthony Hitchens   Iowa   6'1"   225   OLB43      
300    +19   Donte Rumph   Kentucky   6'2"   323   DT34   DT43   
      
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« Reply #1 on: Apr 12, 2014 at 16:54 »

The trick is that if you know how far certain players you're targeting might fall, that can affect earlier choices.  So you can put together targets by round, then work backwards from R7 and cherry-pick.

Here's how I'd process this.

At 1.15, I'm bummed that Dennard is off the board (and others, obviously, but Dennard is a realistic target in a need area).  But I'd give the following thumbs up thumbs down:

15    +13   Aaron Donald   Pittsburgh   6'1"   285   DT43: love the player, not a fit in our system.  Still, not off the board, just won't be around in R2 when he'd be irresistible.
16   --   Marqise Lee   USC   6'0"   192   WRF: not as high on him as the experts.  Health & drops.  Trade-back or R2, not 1.15.
17     -2   Timmy Jernigan   Florida State   6'3"   299   DT43:  Not a fit.    
18   --   Mike Evans   Texas A&M   6'5"   231   WRF:  Still very high on Evans, Megatron-sized, plays well with improv style QB, very young still, not bad speed.  Probably my highest rated player in this group.  But what is the dropoff to a R2 WR versus other positions?
19   --   Kony Ealy   Missouri   6'4"   273   DE43   DE3: Not a fit.  
20   --   Justin Gilbert   Oklahoma State   6'0"   202   CB:  Great speed, playmaking ability, is going to need to learn the game some, not a clean starter right away.  Could develop into a very good player though.  In the mix, behind Evans.      
21   --   Jason Verrett   TCU   5'9"   189   CB:  Not a fan of small CBs, and 5'9" is my line of demarcation.  But.  Verrett is probably the best CB this side of Dennard, plays bigger than he measures, played through injury, great VJ means he has better playing height than he measures out at.  IMO, yes, he's a consideration at 1.15.  Most think he's a slot only guy, but despite the size limits, I think he can play on an island.  Seems impossible that he could cover 6'5" receivers, but Revis is 5'11" with a 38" VJ; Jason's 5'9" with a 39 1/2" VJ.  So.      
22   --   Odell Beckham Jr.   LSU   5'11"   198   WRF:  Warming to this guy at 1.15.  Speed not quite Wallace league, but would add another speedy guy to the mix.      
23     -6   Louis Nix   Notre Dame   6'2"   331   DT34   DT43:  Over Nix at 1.15.  Now have a R2 grade on him.  
24   --   David Yankey   Stanford   6'6"   315   OG   LOT:  No way at 1.15.
25   --   Jeremiah Attaochu   Georgia Tech   6'3"   252   OLB34   OLB43:  Maybe R2-3.  
26   --   Jace Amaro   Texas Tech   6'5"   265   TE.  No way at 1.15.    
27   --   Derek Carr   Fresno State   6'2"   214   QB:  David Carr II:  R3-4.  Can he throw anything but 5 yarders and screens?  
28     -5   Stephon Tuitt   Notre Dame   6'5"   304   DE34   DT43:  Still waiting for some measurables on movement, but:  size,yes;  POA strength, yes; age, yes; production when healthy, yes.  I think he's in the mix, but would be a no-brainer for trade-back or R2.  
29   --   Calvin Pryor   Louisville   5'11"   207   SS   FS:  Pryor was a trade-back value before signing Mitchell, now he's a R2 value, so likely off.  
30   --   Kyle Fuller   Virginia Tech   6'0"   190   CB:  Like him a lot, more than most apparently, think he could be in the mix at 1.15.      
31   --   Scott Crichton   Oregon State   6'3"   273   DE43: Not a fit.      
32   --   Dee Ford   Auburn   6'2"   252   DE43   OLB34:  Not here, need versus value.
33   --   Brandin Cooks   Oregon State   5'10"   189   WRS:  Poor man's DeSean?  Yes.  In the mix for me.
34   --   Ryan Shazier   Ohio State   6'1"   237   OLB43   OLB34:  I love me some Shaz.  Yes.
35    +13   Zack Martin   Notre Dame   6'4"   308   OG   LOT:  Plays all 5 spots, smallish but gnarly, plays nasty, yes.
36   --   Bradley Roby   Ohio State   5'11"   194   CB.  Speed, but has a mental disconnect, needs coaching.  R2.
37   --   Bishop Sankey   Washington   5'9"   209   RBF.  No.  Not here.
38     -3   Xavier Su'a-Filo   UCLA   6'4"   307   OG.  No.  Not here.    
39     -1   Morgan Moses   Virginia   6'6"   314   ROT   LOT. No.  
40   --   Allen Robinson   Penn State   6'3"   220   WRF.  R2.      
41   --   Kyle Van Noy   BYU   6'3"   243   OLB43   OLB34.  R2.  
42   --   Ra'Shede Hageman   Minnesota   6'6"   310   DE34   DT43.  Hits the specs; inconsistent; over-age; trade-back or R2.  
43    +4   Jordan Matthews   Vanderbilt   6'3"   212   WRF: R2.  
44   --   Carlos Hyde   Ohio State   6'0"   230   RBF: R2.
45   --   Trent Murphy   Stanford   6'5"   250   DE43   OLB34: R2  

So, sans trade-backs:

1. WR Evans.
2. CB Gilbert.
3. DE Tuitt.
4. ILB Shazier.
5. CB Fuller.
6. OL Martin
7. CB Verrett.
8. WR Cooks.
9. WR Beckham.
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« Reply #2 on: Apr 13, 2014 at 07:04 »

Im having a helluva time on this one for reasons you mentioned.  First I thought easily Evans with 1.15 based on this.  Then I looked at round 2 and saw Adams, Bryant, Benjamin, Moncrief (in no particular order) as "being there" in round 2 and have to wonder if the drop off is so great when compared to other positions.

After thinking about that I looked at the D-Line.  With the questionmarks on Tuitt, I just don't see a D-Line at round 1 (although would not be shocked if they go that route)

That leaves the CB's, LB, and OLine of the shopping list you created.

I do like Gilbert, Verrett, and Fuller, but don't know that Fuller is a 1.15 pick.  I like Verrett but perhaps am too locked into his size instead of his ability.

I agree on Shaz, then wonder if we will go LB 2 years in a row with first rounders.  As for Martin on the OL, I simply feel the other positions are of greater need.

All that said, I need more coffee...............
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So, sans trade-backs:

1. WR Evans.
2. CB Gilbert.
3. DE Tuitt.
4. ILB Shazier.
5. CB Fuller.
6. OL Martin
7. CB Verrett.
8. WR Cooks.
9. WR Beckham.

Part of me would like to have Verrett over the other 2, but I can't get past the size issue.  IMO, the other two could be coached up.  But once the order has been established, there is no reason to keep 2nd or 3rd choice at any particular position:  eliminate the extraneous, and have one top player per position, in order of BBV.  That makes this:


1. WR Evans.
2. CB Gilbert.
3. DE Tuitt.
4. ILB Shazier.
5. CB Fuller.
6. OL Martin
7. CB Verrett.
8. WR Cooks.
9. WR Beckham.


Become the more manageable:

R1 SBV

1. WR Evans.
2. CB Gilbert.
3. DE Tuitt.
4. ILB Shazier.
5. OL Martin

So, as discussed, review the BPA at R2 and then see what the dropoff from the R1 players in same positions are; repeat with R3.

OL drops off pretty precipitously; no clear LT prospects worth it here.  Some decent IOL guys, but the value isn't there IMO.  CB also falls off pretty badly, and it's to the point that I'd roll with later rounders most likely.  S isn't a glaring need, but I will include a player I think outshines need and could be a real powerhouse starter.  Deone Bucannon is thunderous against the run, but also has pretty solid ball skills.  Has good speed but might not be a true FS candidate.  Paired with Mitchell, and with Shamarko in sub packages, the secondary could be rather scary.  "His muscles have muscles," reportedly, and lays hits that can be heard.

WR is a nice cluster of value.  I like Adams (much more so than QB Carr, for sake of comparison), and also Jarvis Landry.  But the guy I think has really big upside is Donte Moncrief.  Not as fast as Wallace coming out of Ole Miss, but bigger, tougher, more consistent.  Needs to work on routes, but has rare measurables and I get the sense his best is yet to come.  Could be wrong, call it a hunch, he's the cream of my R2 WR cluster.

Couple of TE prospects in ASF and Niklas, both with intriguing upside, and some questions.  ASF looked like he was going to set the world on fire in 2013 but fizzled.  Injuries have limited ability to get measurables, but he and Niklas look about the same size and speed.  Niklas, not quite up to the level of a slew of recent ND TEs, has untapped upside, and while he's a bit rough around the edges I like his physicality as a blocker.  He's shown some ability as a receiver, beyond his stats.  Edge: Niklas, not by much.

LB:  I like OLB value later, and with Jarvis and Worilds (presuming his extension comes post 6/1) the presumptive starter.  *Edit:  Missed " Marcus Smith   Louisville   6'3"   251   DE43" before, and would add him to my SBV here; although OLB is not a high need area (IF Worilds extends), due diligence.  Depth needs addressed, but later.  ILB has questions, to say the least: a lot of bodies, one starter.  Another shaky cluster, however.  I'd definitely fish for ILB later, but I'll include Borland here - not usually a fan of moxie overcompensating short stature and slow speed, but Borland's productive, smart, good v. the run, a thumper.  What we need.  A liability v. the pass?  Teh $64K question.  Skov is a maybe, but I'm not thrilled with another injured ILB in the mix.

DL:  DE is a need, big time.  Not these, not here.  DL in general disappoints this draft.  No NT to be seen in this set.  Pass.

RB is almost off the board, given the 2 Le's (Veon and Garrette).  But Tre Mason at R2 seems too good too not include somewhere on this list.

R2 SBV

1. WR Moncrief
2. SS Deone Bucannon
3. TE Niklas
4. ILB Borland
5. RB Mason
6. OLB Smith

The continuity threads:  IMO, Moncrief has plenty of upside, but he's in the next tier compared to Evans.  It's really difficult to project the dropoff, the way OL and CB fell off the map.  Also, DE is in the shitter here.  ILB goes from Shazier, who is amazing and blazing, to the spunky Borland.  Borland could be the next Zach Thomas, but Shazier looks like he's got the speed and hitting to match today's game far better, so yes, a big drop there.  And ILB looks thin to me.  We didn't miss much from Amaro to Niklas, IMO.  RB appears here, but is possibly a better value later.  (Something would blow up with Mason in that damn mix!)

R3 Comp.

A small set, but some notables.  First off, a cluster of RBs.  Again, need is low, but talent is high, all the more so because RB is being devalued, so going against the grain, a mid-round RB could be the equivalent of a R2 pick in previous years.  Steelers are interested in Carey and Seastrunk.  Carey has nice stats, but is slow.  Seastrunk has 4.51 speed but on the turf he's pretty zippy.  Jeremy Hill has off-field flags, but is a tough bastard runner.  De'Anthony Thomas was hurt by bad form at the combine 40, but ran (IMO) a legit 4.39 at his pro day.  He's typically rated as a late rounder, but he'd be the perfect complement to the Le's, and has game-breaking speed as a KR/PR.

OL has one entry: Colorado's Joel Bitonio, who has showed up for Senior Bowl and combine evals.  Undersized, but nimble, capable, looks like a Beachum type who can play LT and OG and probably C.  

A couple of SS entries, in Jimmie Ward and Dion Bailey.  Ward has really gotten glowing reviews from Mayock, while Bailey has flown under the radar.  I like Ward, and was suggesting he was worth a R4 flyer a few months ago.  But Bailey, a converted LB, is being overlooked.  Ward may be able to play either S spot, but Bailey can play one spot (SS) better.

At CB, still thin:  SJB wins over Hampton by virtue of frame.  But I think he's a bit overrated.

DL brings Kareem Martin, who has the frame, strength at POA, and some measurables.  He'll need coaching up, but is a prospect.

WR and LB are a washout.  I've mentioned Andrew Jackson as a late round flyer, insane here.

R3 SBV
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1. RB/KR Thomas
2. OL Bitonio
3. SS Bailey
4. DE Martin
5. CB Jean-Baptiste
  
An odd set and not sure how it fits, but could very well peek down to R4 prospects and up-draft one of them here.  OL and CB reappear, RB is still in play, S is still in play, and DE reappears.  Tuitt to Martin looks like a steep fall.  Gilbert to SJB likewise.  Bucannon to Bailey is, IMO, steep, more because Bucannon is elite and undervalued than because Bailey is lacking.  Mason to Thomas is apples to oranges.  Impossible to say, but in some ways Thomas is a better fit and a better value, even if Mason is the superior overall RB.
  
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Yeah, Evans still being there is too tempting...
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« Reply #5 on: Apr 14, 2014 at 09:39 »

As I continue to mull this over, values are really coming into play for the 1.15 pick.

Finnegan did a great breakdown, and here is my .02 following it up.

Assuming that picks 1-14 go exactly as they are listed (which we know wont happen) and Evans is still on the board, I pass.  There seems to be a significant number of quality projections at WR for round 2 with a less significant drop off in value.

I still don't know how I feel about Tuitt, but he is the only remaining D-Lineman I consider.

I don't like Martin (O-Line) at 1.15.  A lot of what I read projects him as a guard only.  If he were a "cant miss" LT type, I would add him to my mix.  Seems more of a guard type, with a ?? LT ability in the pros.  I pass

CB:  Gilbert is there, and as noted, there seems to be a drop off in CB's after the first few.  I really like Fuller, but not at 1.15.....maybe at 1.25 but that is not where we are.  I cant get past Verrett's height (or lack there of), and don't like Robley anywhere in round 1 (I see him at round 3). There appears to be a drop off in CB after this.  Being the position of need that it is, with the apparent dropoff in value, I don't know that we can pass should Gilbert be there (although there are some good projects later):  Jean-Baptiste (Neb), Roberson (Florida), Desir (Lindenwood), Gaines (Missouri), Davis (Auburn), Aikens (Liberty), Colvin (Ok), Cockrell (Duke), Exum (VaTech), Gaines (Rice)

LB:  There appear to be 4 (in no particular order) in Barr, Mack, Mosley, Shazier.  Cant really explain why, but Mosley is 4th on my list of this group.  After these 4, value seems to considerably drop.  there are a couple of later rounders I like a projects/developmental (in no order):  Jackson (WKy), Powell (Florida), Starr (S Dakota), Bradford (Ariz St), Bullough (Migh St), Brown (Lousiville).

The more I look this over, I am thinking the order might need to be (Based on available quality later) round 1: LB, round 2 WR and round 3 CB.

Based on all of this, and using THIS player/prospect rating chart my 7 rounds are as follows:

1.  OLB Shazier (Ohio St).  I don't like him at the 15 hole, but compared to the other positions the player value drops off most significantly
2.  WR Benjamin (Florida St). Reality is I don't think there is a snowball chance in hell he falls to here, but it comes down to Him and Moncrief for me.
3.  CB Jean-Baptiste (Nebraska):  coaching and learning to do, but love his size
4.  DT Carreathers (Arkansas St)
5.  ILB Bullough (Mich St)  This was actually the last spot I filled, not overly happy with it but is a backup at best and can hopefully use his described intelligence to really learn the position
5.  OL Hurst (UNC):  At one point was rated much higher, hope he heals and we have a steal as a developmental project
6.  CB Exum (Va Tech) another prior injury that is a steal if he healed
6.  DE Coleman (Cal) good size, hard worker, listed as high as round 3 elsewhere.  Good value here
7.  OL Johnson (Vandy).  Acutally listed on the FA list in this ranking list, but versatility cant be passed and possibly not gotten in FA
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« Reply #6 on: Apr 14, 2014 at 18:01 »

Continuing:

R4 SBV

1. FS/CB/SS Terrence Brooks.  Has played all over the secondary, but has CB speed and S hitting instincts.  I'd try him at CB first, but know that he could be a versatile addition.
2. CB Pierre Desir.  Overage, and small school LOC.  That said, a Cortez Allen ringer.
3. WR Cody Latimer.  Big, productive, physical, great workouts.  Should go higher.
4. CB Terrance Mitchell.  The #2 CB at Oregon... except that metrics analysis says he does everything exceptionally.  Is it time to place your faith in analytics?
5. NT Ryan Carrethers.  One of a few NTs I like, this would allow Mac to move to DE.  But when?
6.  RB Terrance West.  Huge sleeper buzz, don't be surprised if the Ratties sign this kid in the first 2-3 rounds.  If we want a RB corps with no speed guy, but 3 big pounders, West would be a nice value here.
7. SS Ahmad Dixon.  Dixon's a guy who will likely go day 3 but play consistently on Sundays.

I've stacked the CB position, because I would take some of these guys in earlier rounds.  Just missed:  CB EJ Gaines, Missouri; shut down Mike Evans, but then again, Curtis Brown shut down Dez Bryant for a game in college, IIRC.

R5(b) SBV

1. OLB/ILB Bradford.  Bradford is probably off the board in R2-3 in the real world.  Very strong DE/OLB at ASU, could be versatile enough to be moved inside.  
2. QB Murray.  Torn ACL and height issues aside, I think Murray would be a nice pickup.  That would mean admitting Landry Jones was a mistake.  Murray throws a nice ball and can improvise.  IMO, sans injury, a R2 guy this year.
3. FS/CB Huff.  Played CB and 1 year of FS, so provides positional flex.  Can absolutely play corner, and play it with great pyhysicality.
4. CB Aikens.  Not far behind Huff, LOC is the biggest question.  Nice speed, seems to understand the fundamentals.  Just beats out Colvin (ACL) as the developmental CB on the SBV.
5. WR Herron.  Undersized WR with serious speed, but did not get a lot of KR/PR experience.  Colbert seemed to love him at the EW Shrine game.
6. OLB Barrett.  Joey Porter coached him at Colorado St., and may have the inside skinny on his upside.  Great motor, needs coaching.  A bit of a reach perhaps.

R5(c) SBV

1. DE Gardner.  Keisel type, very fast, nice value in this spot.  Overage, and coming off a torn pec, or he’d probably go higher.
2. QB Boyd.  I’ve seen the good, the bad, and the ugly with Boyd, but I think his value is higher than what we’ve been seeing from the draft gurus.  Ceiling:  Russell Wilson?  Floor:  You’re fired.
3. OLB Shembo.  Great motor, KEI, but needs coaching.  Also has an off-field flag worth noting.

R6 SBV


1. CB Gaines.  Phillip Gaines has world class speed and IMO is vastly under-rated here; I would probably pull the trigger as early as R3.  Coach him up a year, he’s your new Ike.
2. DE Coleman.  Has the frame, is he anything special?
NT Allen.  Frame, size, and has flashed ability.  Has also disappeared.  Who is this guy?
3. TE Murphy.  Pitta clone, or camp body?

And a 10-second culling of the R7/FAs:

R7 SBV

1. RB/QB/CB/ATH McKinnon.  I have no idea what position I'd play McKinnon.  I know he can play lots of different spots, and has elite measurables.  Bring him in and put him where you need him.
2. ILB Pierre-Louis.  Poor man's Shazier.  Great measureables, light in the sandals.
3. OL Johnson.  Has appeared on my mocks, late, with recurrence.  A Beachum plus type.
4. ILB Fortt.  Suffered in switching from PSU to Cal, but could have the raw moldable talent to switch from OLB to ILB.
5. WR/QB Colter.  Hines Lite?
6. TE Rodgers.  Has some possible value as a late TE.


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« Reply #7 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 10:20 »

Once I tabulated all this, I worked bottom up to get best value.  E.g., Philip Gaines in R6 is a guy I'd look at R2-3, so that was a huge win.  For the most part, I followed my #1 moving from bottom to top.

R7:  RB/QB/CB/ATH Jerick McKinnon, Georgia Southern, 5'9", 209#.  Had an insane combine workout, running an official 4.41 40 (unofficial was in the 4.3s), 32 reps, a 40 1'2" VJ, and 11'0" BJ.  Mayock noted that he played QB in the read option, but projects to RB in the pros.  However, he's shown amazing versatility and Mayock further noted he could probably work out at WR and even CB.  Had big games against top competition (UGA, FL), so if he can transition to the pro system LOC should not be an issue.  I'd pencil him in as a COP back when we need speed, and work him into a few receiving plays in the slot.  And why not:  give him some reps at nickel back as well. 

R6:  CB Phillip Gaines, Rice, 6'0", 193#.   With decent size and 4.38 speed, Gaines is a fluid athlete who will need to be coached to backpedal and learn NFL assignments.  With Ike here for one more year, Gaines is the guy who can learn the ropes to take over next year.  Could become a true shutdown corner, and has an excellent record of passes allowed/PBU.

R5 (comp):   DE, Ben Gardner,  Stanford, 6'4", 277#.  Coming off a torn pec, Gardner would otherwise be going higher.  A combine snub despite being a cornerstone of the Cardinal defense, Gardner shares many traits with Brett Keisel:  athletic, intelligent, great motor, a run-stopper who can tangle with the OTs.  Didn't lift at pro day, but posted some wow numbers, a 39.5" vertical and 10'2" BJ, showing his explosiveness.  (Strength is apparent on tape.)  Although he missed a portion of 2013 season, he showed strong in 2012 with 49 tackles, 14.5 tackles for a loss, 7.5 sacks, and five passes batted. He had 35 tackles, 10 tackles for a loss and 4.5 sacks in 2011.  In the 3-4, he might not rack up as many sacks but will still command attention.

R5: OLB/ILB Carl Bradford, Arizona State, 6'1",  250#.  Played rush end/OLB "Devilbacker" at ASU, able to play with his hand in the dirt, or standing up in the middle intermediate areas (like a 3-4 ILB).  In 27 starts, had 103 solo tackles (142  total), 19 sacks, 39.5 TFL, 6 FF, 2 INT, and 8 PDU.  Squats 545# but looks fluid and loose in coverage.  Really, could man ILB or OLB, and that versatility is why I only select 1 LB this year.  My instinct would be to see if he can displace Vince Williams, who is perfectly fine as a backup but who was a coverage liability last year.  Bradford's gaudy stats might not translate to the buck, but he could easily rotate to the edge in packages.  The guy's a playmaker.

R4: FS Terrence Brooks,  Florida State, 5'11", 198#.  So far the theme has been value, speed, and versatility, and Brooks is another great example.  Brooks played CB and FS at FSU, and clocked 4.42 at the combine.  That was far ahead of top S prospects Ha Ha Dix (4.58) and Calvin Pryor (4.58), and his 38" VJ beat their 33" and 34 1/2" VJs.  Having a guy who can play man or cover over the top would mean Brooks would see action early, and offer insurance in case Mitchell doesn't pan at FS.  Helping both CB and FS depth would be two birds, one stone.

R3 (comp):  Here's where I deviated from my #1 by round.  I had RB/KR De'Anthony Thomas as #1, but as much as I like Thomas, McKinnon in R7 could be just as much of a playmaker and free up our R3 for a different position of need.  My #2 is OT/OG Joel Bitonio, Nevada, 6'4", 302#.   Bitonio played LT at Nevada, but is thought to project to OG in the NFL.  However, he's still bigger than Kelvin Beachum and faster, too.  He ran a sub-5.0 40 and was one of 4 OL to run a sub-1.70 10-yard split (OT Patchan 1.59, OT Lewan 1.64, OT Robinson 1.69).  Light enough to match speed rushers, with the ability to get to the second level quickly as a pulling guard.  Played all 5 OL spots at the Senior Bowl and showed extremely well.  Plays with a mean streak.  Would provide backup at LT, which we currently lack, and could be groomed to any spot on the line.  Speed and versatility again.

R2: This was the trickiest round.  I'll skip to the R1 reveal (WR Evans) to illustrate why.  My top 3 were WR Moncrief, SS Bucannon, and TE Niklas.  While an Evans-Moncrief 1-2 would be an insane boost to the offense, I felt it was a bit of overkill with Brown as WR1, Wheaton hopefully stepping into WR2/3, and the additions of Moore and DHB.  If I took Moncrief, there was still more of a learning curve than with Evans, IMO.  (Behind Evans, 2. CB Gilbert was off with CBs Brooks and Gaines already added, 3. Tuitt had been scratched due to DE Gardner, 4. ILB Shazier was off due to ILB/OLB Bradford, and 5. OL Martin was off due to OL Bitonio.)  That brought the choice to SS Bucannon and TE Niklas.  While Niklas could add needed depth and take over from Miller in the future, I stayed with Bucannon, to take over post-Troy.  IMO, Bucannon is the best SS in this class.  Deone Bucannon, Washington State, 6'1", 211#.   Ran a 4.49, put up 19 reps, jumped 36 1/2" VJ and 10'5" BJ.  Measures 78" wingspan.  Had 114 tackles last year, and 268 on his career.  Doesn't look pretty in coverage, but still managed 15 INTs and 7 PBU.  Likes to punish runners somewhat in the Bernard Pollard mode.

With the additions of Bucannon, Brooks, Gaines, and FA Mitchell, the secondary would look very sound.

R1: WR Mike Evans, Texas A&M, 6'5", 231#.   Highly productive with an improvisational QB at A&M, Evans has TE size and WR speed.  Ran an official 4.53 (unofficial in the high 4.4s), and posted a 37" VJ.  Is only 20, so he has upside.  Compared often to Vincent Jackson, I think he's better than that.  I see some Tony Gonzalez in his game, and physical WR play of a guy like Alshon Jeffrey.   Not quite Megatron-freak level, but adds a whole new dimension to the offense. Absolutely destroyed Bama and Auburn, so he shouldn't have a difficult transition versus NFL DBs. 

5 D-side, 3 O-side players. 
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« Reply #8 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 11:35 »

1-15 Mike Evans   
2-46 A Seferian-Jenkins   
3-97 Stanley Jean-Baptiste   
4-118 Telvin Smith   
5-157 Zack Kerr   
5-173 Deion Belue   
6-192 Matt Patchan   
6-215 Deandre Coleman   
7-230 Tim Jackson   
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« Reply #9 on: Apr 16, 2014 at 12:19 »

1-15 Mike Evans   
2-46 A Seferian-Jenkins   
3-97 Stanley Jean-Baptiste   
4-118 Telvin Smith   
5-157 Zack Kerr   
5-173 Deion Belue   
6-192 Matt Patchan   
6-215 Deandre Coleman   
7-230 Tim Jackson   

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